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Post by madmin » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:17 pm

Putin purposefully showed those nukes falling on florida to warn the US not to make a nuclear first strike. i once read an extensive interview with a US general who conceded the US stands zero chance with a conventional war against the big guns and it's only chance is a nuclear first strike. i'm sure putin is aware of this so has scrambled to catch up in that department and now showed his muscle. he is creating a balance of power, and the world needs that, otherwise the US would continue bulldozing its way around the planet. what concerns fox news, i agree with you. in 1987 reagan repealed an act that forced organisations declaring themselves to be news sources to tell the truth. the elite who own everything need to have propaganda tools to get away with their murder. canada still has this law, for which reason fox is prevented from setting up shop there. best to find alternative, independent sources and use your brain to piece things together. i don't trust any of the mainstream and am glad to have gleaned myself from the television for more than a decade (i have been traveling because of my online income).

and by the way, "ca 25%" is "circa", which means approximately, nothing to do with canada

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Post by other » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:18 pm

Doug - Real democracy is not as good as a republic... too much controversy

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Post by madmin » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:18 pm

i believe the direct democracy should be broken down to regional, even micro-regional levels. i just don't like the idea of people in a distant capital dictating my life, people who are corruptible with bribes, nor the idea of direct democracy on a national level, where 51% of some general population can dictate the remainder. for example, in the US, there are "blue" and "red" areas, let the people rule their own lives. trade agreements can be made and certain things can function on a federal level, such as freedom of movement and labour, but there is just too much corruption if you allow such centralisation of power into a few hands relative to the overall population.

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Post by other » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:19 pm

and you would pay for all that redundancy. Not different than socialism which is an abject failure everywhere it has been tried with populations eceeeding 70-80 million.

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Post by madmin » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:19 pm

that is nonsense. perhaps extreme socialism, but cuba works, and most or all of europe and canada is a combination of socialism and free enterprise and the people are definitely better off than in the US. And what do you mean by paying for redundancy? if you have a (my) website where anyone can log in and submit an idea and everyone else can vote on it, i do not see any redundancy or costs.

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Post by other » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:20 pm

Really you must watching cnn
Cuba works so eell they still drive 1950's US cars, amd Europe is maybe 2-3 years away from all out war with muslims soaking up the socialist freebies. You obviously lean toward socialism. All who hate to have to work very hard for success are in this group. The ultimate responsibility for success is on the individual, not the cllective

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Post by madmin » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:20 pm

i don't watch or follow ANY mainstream media, only independents. i'm not one who likes to be idle and am constantly productive, but i believe there are simply some in society who are weaker and need to be taken care of, if a society cares. i'm not talking about obvious freeloaders. cuba has free healthcare, education and many others, it's not all about who has the fancy cars and that is the problem with the US is its high regard for status. Europe getting soaked up with muslims on the brink of war is a separate issue. i'm guessing the globalists are masterminding this on purpose. otherwise, if left as individual sovereign countries their socialism works, as it does in canada.

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Post by other » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:20 pm

socialism does not work, it is expensive,creates lazy people and is resented by those who choose to work to better themselves. It will only make living worse especially in countries where more people are on hand outs than actually contribute. You soumd like a typical college professor. I suggest you do some historical research. I have worked since I was 13. I resent the hell out of seeing someone leave the store with 3 carts of stuff paid with an ebd card and drive away in a lexus. There is no utopia, perfect condition or fairness and honesty when it come to humans and free unearned stuff. Oh and in Cuba you have no guarranteed rights. It is a socialist Dictatorship like China, N Korea , Russia ( has limited capitalism) and many other 3rd world toilets.

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Post by madmin » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:20 pm

socialism does work, it exists in many countries where their society takes care of the weak. it is interesting that you call yourself a Christian nation yet you behave quite differently. Jesus was perhaps the biggest socialist of all. Just look at Stephen and the early church. You sound like your average American who is completely ignorant of the world outside bubble America, where the 1% elite control practically everything and use their mainstream media propaganda machine to invoke the red scare so that the people there embrace capitalism, as if that is a representation of true freedom, while it consolidates into ever fewer hands as it quietly moves closer to a fascist police state. I suggest you jump on a plane and check it out yourself. I have also worked hard from a young age and also traveled to 39 countries over 12 years because of my online income and in canada or europe, relatively socialist countries compared to the US, i have never once seen a homeless person, while in the US there are over a million of them. meanwhile three times that number of homes remain empty under foreclosure, owned by the banks and occasionally bulldozed down in a desparate attempt to kickstart another housing boom. this is plain sick. Calling Russia a third world toilet also shows your complete ignorance. the last i checked moscow is the most expensive city in the world. when i lived for three years in thailand, russians would regularly throw thousand dollar notes like toilet paper into the faces of police, just so they could continue with their parties (complaint by neighbours as it was getting late). i visited china and their cities are quite clean and futuristic compared to your dilapidated ones. note how the once mighty detroit is crumbling as the entire manufacturing base has moved to china, where they have a different form of democracy. one that can actually vote in far planning and wise leaders as opposed to the baboon you presently have in office, who is basically just a lapdog of the for-profit war machine there. North Korea, well, I agree with you there, but you make the common mistake of automatically equating communism with socialism. besides, this Page is not even about that but simply offering a tool where average joe can submit an idea and everyone else vote on it, otherwise democracy by representation every four years is too wide open to corruption, as it now stands.

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Post by other » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:21 pm

just how many of those countries have you actually experienced????? Hum? I see what you are because you have digressed into name calling. You are an indoctrinated person. You will probably never accept the real factual truth. Have a good life.

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