Direct Democracy is mob rule

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Post by other » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:22 am

if you read one story in your life, Twain's "The Mysterious Stranger," published posthumously, shows that much of what seems like original thought on our part has already been covered...
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“Satan laughed his unkind laugh to a finish; then he said: "It is a remarkable progress. In five or six thousand years five or six high civilizations have risen, flourished, commanded the wonder of the world, then faded out and disappeared; and not one of them except the latest ever invented any sweeping and adequate way to kill people. They all did their best--to kill being the chiefest ambition of the human race and the earliest incident in its history--but only the Christian civilization has scored a triumph to be proud of. Two or three centuries from now it will be recognized that all the competent killers are Christians; then the pagan world will go to school to the Christian--not to acquire his religion, but his guns. The Turk and the Chinaman will buy those to kill missionaries and converts with.” ― Mark Twain, The Mysterious Stranger 4 likes Like “Manners!" he said. "Why, it is merely the truth, and truth is good manners; manners are a fiction. The castle is done. Do you like it?” ― Mark Twain, The Mysterious Stranger

“And what does it amount to?" said Satan, with his evil chuckle. "Nothing at all. You gain nothing; you always come out where you went in. For a million years the race has gone on monotonously propagating itself and monotonously reperforming this dull nonsense--to what end? No wisdom can guess! Who gets a profit out of it? Nobody but a parcel of usurping little monarchs and nobilities who despise you; would feel defiled if you touched them; would shut the door in your face if you proposed to call; whom you slave for, fight for, die for, and are not ashamed of it, but proud; whose existence is a perpetual insult to you and you are afraid to resent it; who are mendicants supported by your alms, yet assume toward you the airs of benefactor toward beggar; who address you in the language of master to slave, and are answered in the language of slave to master; who are worshiped by you with your mouth, while in your heart--if you have one--you despise yourselves for it. The first man was a hypocrite and a coward, qualities which have not yet failed in his line; it is the foundation upon which all civilizations have been built.” ― Mark Twain, The Mysterious Stranger
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this site lets you collect opinions, but most people self censor when online.... myself included

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Post by madmin » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:23 am

but isn't self censorship a crime in the sense of when good men are silent, evil flourishes?

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Post by other » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:23 am

morally, i guess, not criminally, we have a right to stay silent

back to twain, he wrote that at the end of the 19th century, and what good did it do? It all came true... and Today Twain is the most banned author in US public libraries and schools. Most people have only read Tom Sawyer.... but he wrote hundreds of books
People have poo-pooed Twain as an old White man, and relieved themselves from having to face his ideas, but we could save a lot of time and redundancy... because much of what he talks about is common sense

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Post by madmin » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:24 am

i guess swept under the carpet like his good buddy tesla

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Post by other » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:25 am

yea, exactly

well, at least, unlike me, you haven't given up on it all... but we are blessed to live in interesting times! Who said that?

fixing the world? But where to begin?
ourselves?

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Post by madmin » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:26 am

yah, i think it was stephen hawkings on his recent deathbed, the genius, when asked if he could summarise the meaning of life and everything etc, he could only think of saying, "well, it would be good if we at least tried to be nicer to one another"

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Post by other » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:26 am

OK, gonna ask you, where do most people get their information?

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Post by madmin » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:27 am

I guess combination of TV, word of mouth and Internet, depends on person. I for one ignore TV but have noticed a lot of mainstream news shows are now being uploaded to utube, guess they trying to not lose the info war

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Post by other » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:27 am

yea, well, how can we vote on things if we can't verify where our opinions come from ?

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Post by madmin » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:28 am

My theory is people actually felt their vote counted, more people would participate and care about the actual truth, or learn from each other through debate and discussion. As it stands now most feel disenfranchised, so don't bother even voting and just sit in front of the TV getting brainwashed. Most should be provable by discussion and proper research

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